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Re: Plascore Group Buy? - 2 years ago
I agree with Blakejd, to some degree. I've been working with fiberglass for close to 40 years now. I'm now interested in using it as little as possible. Change is good. I like to go with the flow. Framed wooden boats typically get glued together. That makes the bottom a liability. If glued to ribs and side panels it's not impossible to remove and replace. But it's aby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
More low-hanging fruit: a wider SUP board - 2 years ago
I mentioned the idea of Skin on Frame white water dory in another post. Somebody needs to build that beast. I know it could be done and I know (or think) it would be a cool boat. Ultra light for one. Another ripe low-hanging fruit it the first really good SUP board. SUP boards got their start as a river-running version of a surf board. Zillions have now been sold and they're all stilby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Trex fascia board - 2 years ago
Actually it's Miratec fascia board. Trex is probably the same but That's decking boards. They are probably interchangeable.by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Skin on frame dory - 2 years ago
Somebody needs to build a skin on frame dory. The key I think would be to make an extra stout chine strip by making it a gluelam. 1-1/4" inch thick by 4" inches tall white oak, perhaps with some grooves in it so cross pieces forming the sides and bottom could be tied in, Inuit kayak style. The bottom might need a middle runner. Some stuff has to get worked out on the fly. Skin iby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Bulkheads roughed-in - 2 years ago
Bulkheads Roughed In I haven't been in the shop much last two weeks. I finally got the bulkheads roughed in. Nothing gets glued in this experimental boat. It all goes together with caulk and Torx screws so anything and everything can be replaced or remodelled. At any time. Bulkheads help hold up the deck and in case of a puncture they limit water access to one section of theby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Fiberglass Layup - 2 years ago
RE> "After this all dries should I put another coat of epoxy on top of my first layer of fiberglass before I put my next layer of fiberglass on? Or should I just put the fiberglass on dry and work epoxy on from the top? Just curious what your thoughts are. Appreciate any input." There is an element of style and preference here. Many people do just what you say in the second partby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Plascore thickness? - 2 years ago
Thickness is interesting in multiple contexts. When making a gunwale or a chine strip 3/4" inch fir can be hard to bend. At least without steaming it. 5/8" inch thick is a lot easier to bend. How that slim 1/8" thickness difference matters so much is bit of a mystery. But so it is. A full one inch thick? 1-1/4" thick? You'll need some serious steaming equipmentby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Plascore thickness? - 2 years ago
Last time I bought Plascore I bought a dozen sheets of 3/4" inch. It works fine. I have two sheets left. However. Especially so for the bottom if I had it to do all over again I'd think about 1" inch thick. It isn't any heavier and it ends up a lot stiffer. Jeremy Christensen built a Briggs boat with a 1" inch Plascore bottom and it was very stiff. He did a goodby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Pott Stickers - 2 years ago
I've been working on Pott Stickers for almost a week. I made a post yesterday and then discovered something and so then deleted yesterday's post. Or so I thought. I deleted it again a few minutes ago. Here's the updated deal. This is a Frans Pott Sandy Mite. Pott started manufacturing these in the early 1920s. They used to be by far the most popular fly in Montana. The woby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Plascore Group Buy? - 2 years ago
If Henrysfork doesn't buy your plascore I might. I'm in no hurry.by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Need a 10 day week - 2 years ago
I'm not a fan of noisy jet skis but I was impressed with this guy's jerry rigged drive train. How fast could you go with a little one man boat like this, with a battery and DC motor pulled from an electric bike setup? Or just a trolling motor? My 55lb thrust Minkota moves my big drift boat well enough. If used on a small one person custom fishing boat it would really fly. Or perhby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Marking a deck line - 2 years ago
Clear fir 18 20 and 22 feet long is almost extinct. When my lumber yard gets it i buy it. You can make a long line marking strip from a 20' masonite-like siding board. Cut off a 3/4" strip. Bend that.by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Marking a deck line - 2 years ago
I did this three or four days ago. And then checked my work today and had to sand clean and remark it all. If you want to make a decked boat, with trapezoid-like bulkheads below kissing the bottom of the deck, the starting point is the deck line. 18' foot strips of clear vertical grain fir cut to 1/4" inch thick are easy to bend and they make a good marking line. But at 1/4"by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Cardboard patterns - 2 years ago
Making a bulkhead Measure back from the transom the same amount on either side to make two matching marks. Stretch a board from from side to side, from mark to mark. Clamp it down. Make the boat level, so a 4' level reads level when placed over the middle of the bottom. Then use a 4' foot level to transfer the edge of the cross-gunwale board to the floor. Now you'reby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Cardboard patterns - 2 years ago
Cardboard is a pattern maker's best friendby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Skin on frame dory - 2 years ago
Somebody has to take a chance and build one of these as a dory. 20oz nylon instead of 10oz? Kevlar instead of nylon? At least on the bottom? kevlar doesn't heat shrink but there is always a way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygLdbvXlAI&t=632sby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Bob's Buffalo boat. - 2 years ago
fitdy dagrees The triangle below makes three angles: 90 50 and 40 The 50 degree angle is between the 5 side and the 7-5/8 side.by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Two passengers or four? - 2 years ago
Gotcha. Cool. I'm working with OSB today. I can afford to make mistakes with wafer board. I'm going to have to take that empty boat hull to a local lake next few days so I can put a 4' foot level in it, while it's afloat, and find the precise center of the boat. I do that on all new hulls. It gives me more confidence about where to put the seats. Even then I'm aby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Long and skinny or ... long and wide? - 2 years ago
Long and Skinny or Long and Wide? Should a white water dory carry its passengers in the middle? Or out at the ends the ends of the boat, like a Briggs? I want the weight in the middle of the boat rather than out at the ends. For a lot of reasons. In a high rocker boat passengers out at the ends are high up rather than low down. That makes the boat unnecessarily tippy. Weight in the middlby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Two passengers or four? - 2 years ago
:=)) Because I want the weight in the middle of the boat rather than out at the ends. For a lot of reasons. In a high rocker boat passengers out at the ends are high up rather than low down. That makes the boat unnecessarily tippy. Weight in the middle is more side to side stable and easier and quicker to turn. Traditional Oregon dory builders know this. They have always put the payloadby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Two passengers or four? - 2 years ago
I'm trying to get back in the shop again, after six weeks off with some Covid-related health problems. Things are looking up. I've had both vaccinations and for totally unexplained reasons my energy is flooding back. This is common among Covid long haulers. Even though nobody knows why. I'm working on a big white water boat. Mine has has gunwales about 18' feet 9"by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Flathead lake cabin cruiser - 2 years ago
Richard and Katherine Bacon have a cool blog at https://baconob20.blogspot.com/ They built the cool boat above. They got their boat building start here at MRBoats. Once you've built one it's hard not to build another. And you only need plans the first time. After that you let your imagination go. As did these guys. After you've done it once you can figure the rest out on yoby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Aluminum - 2 years ago
I'm getting ahead of myself. I have a several years old wood/fiberglass project still far from finished. I've been hammered with Long Covid for a year now and not much has happened. But I had my second shot two days ago and my energy is returning. Quickly. Or so it seems. I'm not sure that makes any sense but so it is. After this boat is done the next one will have an aluminby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: All Plascore boats and plugs - 2 years ago
The late Derald Stewart was the only guy I know of who built (decked white water) wooden boats inside a female jig. Which is a bit like a female mold. The following is the Coconino, one of Derald's legendary boats. In action on the Colorado. In the Grand Canyon. Like the Briggs Derald put two passengers up front and two behind the rower. I'm making a big decked white watby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: All Plascore boats and plugs - 2 years ago
Another thought about building over an optional plug. I know of at least two MRBoats customers who have built aluminum boats. One Buffalo Boat and one Honky Dory. both of those boats were built without a plug, with aluminum sheeting side panel stock temporarily attached to chip board formers--just long enough to weld up the edges. My next project will be an aluminum hull. I'll buildby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: All Plascore boats and plugs - 2 years ago
This started out as a response to Henrysfork's post about a group purchase for Plascore. I didn't want to highjack attention away from his original question about a possible group purchase so I just now made this a separate thread--now a thread about the concept of building over a temporary form or plug. Plugs are highly optional. They can be seen as a big extra-step pain in the buttby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Making wooden oars - 2 years ago
:=)) I have been corresponding with Shawn on Facebook. He's got a nifty thread going on about a new one man white water boats he's building. And then I looked at my own forum and see Shawn's name from 2004? That's 17 years ago. Phew. Am I getting old? Or what? I have a pair of 9' foot Smokers I bought in 1979 for my first boat, which all my buddies referred to as Sby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Git Rot - 2 years ago
An interesting how-to-to-it link at West: https://epoxycraft.com/trade-secrets/thinning-epoxy-best-practice-reducing-viscosity-west-system-epoxy/#:~:text=You%20have%20two%20options%20if,mix%20to%20the%20heated%20surface.by Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Git Rot - 2 years ago
I think I see the photo where a hole exposes an outer layer of glass--looking at it from the inside. Don't taper it. Don't use chemicals. Leave it just as it is. The rough edges of the hole will make a good bond. But do blow it out with an air compressor or better yet a hand held can of compressed air. Soak it well with warm resin. Heat the resin and hardener separately, beforeby Sandy - Drift Boat Building
Re: Git Rot - 2 years ago
....buy that putty pre-made (System III fairing putty for instance) or make your own with resin and fibers and microballoons. Or what ever.by Sandy - Drift Boat Building